Washington, D.C. (C-SPAN) Tuesday witnesses testified before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee about enrollment issues with the Affordable Care Act’s Healthcare.gov website. Jonathan Gruber, a former consultant and adviser during the law’s creation apologized for comments he made in which he called voters stupid and said the controversial law was passed because voters did not know better. Marilyn Tavenner also apologized for the wrong enrollment numbers she revealed to the committee, calling it an inadvertent mistake.

Congresswoman Cynthia Lummis commented, questioned and included a personal story with a powerful statement. Play the video to hear the broadcast from C-SPAN. Marilyn B. Tavenner, the Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services was also questioned by Lummis.

You can read the transcript between Lummis, Gruber and Tavenner below:

LUMMIS:
DR. GRUBER, DID YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE SCORING ASPECT OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT?

GRUBER >> I PROVIDED ECONOMIC MICROSIMULATION RESULTS TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND CONGRESS TO HELP UNDERSTAND THE COSTS AND COVERAGE AFFECTS OF THE LAW, BUT I DID NOT PROVIDE ANY OFFICIAL SCORING.

LUMMIS >> YOU HAVE STATED THAT THE ACA WAS WRITTEN IN A WAY -- A TORTURED WAY SO CBO WOULD NOT SCORE IT AS A TAX. NOW, HOW DID THE ADMINISTRATION USE YOUR INFORMATION TO WRITE THE ACA IN A TORTURED WAY SO CBO WOULD NOT SCORE IT AS A TAX?

GRUBER >> ONCE AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY INOPPORTUNE -- INAPPROPRIATE TERMINOLOGY.

LUMMIS >> BUT THEY SCORED -- THEY DIDN'T SCORE IT AS A TAX, RIGHT?

GRUBER >> THE ADMINISTRATION -- I DID NOT --

LUMMIS >> HOW DID YOU GET CBO TO NOT SCORE IT AS A TAX KNOWING THAT AT SOME POINT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GET U.S. SUPREME COURT TO SAY IT WAS A TAX? HOW DID YOU DO IT?

GRUBER >> I DON'T RUN CBO. I DIDN'T DRAFT THE LEGISLATION.

LUMMIS >> WHAT DOES CBO STAND FOR?

GRUBER >> CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE.

LUMMIS >> WHAT IS SCORING?

GRUBER>> SCORING IS THE METHOD BY WHICH THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE ESTIMATES THE EFFECTS OF LEGISLATION ON THINGS LIKE THE FEDERAL BUDGET.

LUMMIS>> YOU HAVE SAID IN 2012 REMARKS THAT YOU WROTE PART OF OBAMACARE YOURSELF. WHAT PARTS DID YOU WRITE YOURSELF?

GRUBER>> IF I SAID THAT, THAT WAS ONCE AGAIN AN EFFORT TO SEEM MORE IMPORTANT THAN I WAS.

LUMMIS>> WHY WOULD YOU SAY YOU WROTE PART OF OBAMACARE YOURSELF AND YOU ARE THE NUMBERS GUY. THEY USED YOUR MODELLING. THEY KNEW THEY MIGHT HAVE TO CONVINCE THE U.S. SUPREME COURT THAT IT WAS A TAX AND CONVINCE THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE FOR SCORING PURPOSES THAT IT WAS NOT A TAX. HOW DID YOU DO THAT?

GRUBER >> MA'AM, ONCE AGAIN, I DID NOT WRITE ANY PART OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.

LUMMIS >> WHY DID YOU SAY IN 2012 EXPLICITLY THAT YOU WROTE PART OF OBAMACARE YOURSELF?

GRUBER >> I WAS SPEAKING GLIBLY.

LUMMIS>> HOW MANY NON-POLITICIANS KNOW WHAT CBO IS? HOW MANY NON-POLITICIANS KNOW WHAT SCORING IS? HOW MANY NON-POLITICIANS WOULD KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO GET BY CBO SCORING IN ORDER TO GET THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TO SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO LOWER COSTS? YOU ARE A POLITICIAN. EVERYTHING THAT HAS LED UP TO YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY IS INCONSISTENT WITH YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY, WHICH IS TO SAY ALL OF YOUR PRIOR STATEMENTS WERE A LIE. IS THAT TRUE? WERE ALL OF YOUR PRIOR STATEMENTS A LIE? OR WERE THEY JUST GLIB?

GRUBER>> THEY WERE NOT A LIE.

LUMMIS >> I WANT TO CHANGE SUBJECTS AND VISIT WITH MS. TAVENNER ABOUT SOMETHING THAT YOU BEGAN TO DISCUSS. THAT IS, IS THERE A DECLINE IN PARTICIPATION? IS THAT WHAT HAS YIELDED SMALLER INCREASES IN THE COST OF HEALTHCARE?

TAVENNER I DON'T HAVE EVEN ANSWER TO THAT. AND I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT FOR -- IT'S TOO EARLY TO KNOW.

LUMMIS >> IS THERE A WAY TO ANALYZE THE INFORMATION TO GET THAT FACT? TO DETERMINE IT.

TAVENNER >> I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE MEDICARE TRUSTEES REPORT, THE NATIONAL HEALTH EXPENDITURE, IT WILL SHOW YOU TRENDS.

LUMMIS>> I'M HOPEFUL TO GET THOSE TRENDS. I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE STORY. I'M ON OBAMACARE. MY HUSBAND WAS ON OBAMACARE WITH ME. WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE ENROLLED IN OBAMACARE. AND THEN WHEN WE FILED CLAIMS, WE WERE TOLD WE WERE NO ENROLLED IN OWEBAMACARE. THEN WE GOT IT STRAIGHTENED OUT. HE FILED CLAIMS AND WE WERE TOLD ONCE AGAIN THAT WE WERE NOT ON OBAMACARE. WELL, COME TO FIND OUT, MY HUSBAND WAS HAVING CHEST PAINS AT THE TIME THAT HE WAS TOLD WE WERE NOT ENROLLED IN OBAMACARE, AND COME TO FIND OUT, HE DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF THE TESTS THAT HE WAS ADVISED BY HIS PHYSICIAN TO HAVE. SO ON OCTOBER 24, A WEEK BEFORE ELECTION, MY HUSBAND WENT TO SLEEP AND NEVER WOKE UP. HE HAD A MASSIVE HEART ATTACK IN HIS SLEEP AT AGE 65, A PERFECTLY, BY ALL APPEARANCES, HEALTHY MAN. COME TO FIND OUT, IN A CONVERSATION WITH HIS PHYSICIAN AFTER HE DIED, HE CHOSE NOT TO HAVE ONE OF THE TESTS, THE LAST TEST, HIS DOCTOR TOLD HIM TO HAVE. THIS HAPPENED TO COINCIDE WITH THE TIME THAT WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE NOT COVERED BY OBAMACARE. I'M NOT TELLING YOU THAT MY HUSBAND DIED BECAUSE OF OBAMACARE. HE DIED BECAUSE HE HAD A MASSIVE HEART ATTACK IN HIS SLEEP. BUT I AM TELLING YOU THAT DURING THE COURSE OF TIME THAT HE WAS HAVING TESTS BY A PHYSICIAN AND WAS TOLD WE WERE NOT COVERED BY OBAMACARE THAT HE THEN DECIDED NOT TO HAVE THE LAST TEST THE DOCTOR ASKED HIM TO HAVE. LET ME SUGGEST THAT THERE MAY BE A DECLINE IN PARTICIPATION AND THAT IT MAY NOT BE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I WANT TO SUGGEST THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENED TO ME PERSONALLY THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY GLITCHES IN THE PASSAGE AND IMPLEMENTATION OF OBAMACARE THAT HAVE REAL-LIFE CONSEQUENCES ON PEOPLE'S LIVE SS. AND THE SO-CALLED GLIBNESS THAT HAS BEEN REFERENCED TODAY HAVE DIRECT CONSEQUENCES FOR REAL AMERICAN PEOPLE. SO GET OVER YOUR DAMN GLIBNESS.